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[moralabsolutism]

[The short figure who steps up pauses and looks out. His eyes are impossible to see but it's clear they're sweeping over the courtyard. He doesn't seem to find whatever he's looking for. His face is constantly shifting patterns, black always moving over the white without ever truly mixing together. They form something that looking like the splatter pattern from a gunshot wound as he speaks, voice little more than a low growl.]

When does a man become completely irredeemable?

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[scarletspeedster]

[Wow, Question would probably really like that mask. ...as much as Question likes anything anyway. He's not exactly easy to read. Much like this guy, though the splatter pattern does make him wonder how personal this question really is.]

I don't know if I'd say anyone is completely irredeemable. I mean, isn't that kind of dangerous to decide?

[moralabsolutism]

[He studies Flash's costume with interest. The costumes of heroes where he's from tend not to be quite so....colorful.]

No. [He had that viewpoint once. It seems like a long, long time ago] Never seen someone commit acts so atrocious you immediately knew they were evil?

[scarletspeedster]

Terrible acts, yeah, I've seen things like that before. But I don't know if I'm willing to go so far to say that that makes those people completely irredeemable either. I mean, what gives me the right to decide that?

It seems like it could be a slippery slope to me. [It was one reason that the League didn't kill, didn't solve problems like the Lords had. They shouldn't have the power to decide who was worth saving and who wasn't.]

[moralabsolutism]

Sometimes, men don't deserve second chances. Someone has to decide when enough is enough [If acting like judge, jury, and executioner was extreme, at least it got the job done. No mucking it up by putting them through the broken legal system.]

[scarletspeedster]

But what gives that person the right to do that? What if they're wrong? [Wally didn't think he could even trust himself with that sort of power; it would be too much, too tempting. Better to let it be decided through the system set up for it, even if there were times when that system was flawed. They weren't meant to be above the law.]

[moralabsolutism]

What gives the person the right to break the law? If they don't respect it, neither should I. [He was fighting fire with fire. It wasn't the perfect strategy, but it was far better than letting them live as he had before.] I never punished anyone who didn't deserve it.

[underscene]

In the eyes of who?

[moralabsolutism]

In your own eyes.

[underscene]

Never. Redemption is a concept created by guilty minds and doctrinal lunatics. There is no such thing as cleansing your soul of previous deeds. Get over it or don't. Learn from it or don't.